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L Besçancon - 'Super Datomatic' Jumbo Diver - N/A - Men - Circa 1970s

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L Besçancon - 'Super Datomatic' Jumbo Diver  - N/A - Men - Circa 1970s

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HP 1641D "signed" 25 Jewels Sweep Second + Date - Nickel Chrome Alloy & Stainless Steel Caseback

Brand: L Besçancon
Model: 'Super Datomatic' Jumbo Diver
Reference Number: N/A
Gender: Men
Period: Circa 1970s
Movement: HP 1641D "signed" 25 Jewels Sweep Second + Date
Case material: Nickel Chrome Alloy & Stainless Steel Caseback
Type: Analogue wristwatch (More lots)
Shipped Insured: Yes
Condition: Worn & in very good condition

◄N.B. Daylight photos can vary; workshop photos are taken under special light. Macro lens used; in enlarged photos you'll see things you wouldn't normally. I don't use enhancement software.►

Case diameter: 38.20mms less original crown
Strap type/material: Deployant good quality leather
Strap size: Wrist>>>approximately 22.30cms
Dial: A1 time-earned patina (inactive lume);
Movement: HP 17 jewel sweep second with date serviced for auction (65€); keeps time
Calibre: #1641D; Google 'HP 1641D ranfft' for information

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HISTORY & NOTES

A later addition possibly from the Mortima stable as it is signed Super DatoMatic on the dial. Whatever it is a beautifully balanced French divers' watch in my opinion.

This is a good watch for some starting a collection as it is a rarely seen marque.

Examine the photos carefully; they form the majority of this rare vintage French diver watch's description.

Your watch will be carefully wrapped (see my Feedback and bid with confidence!) and shipped via Colissimo Insured & Signed For.

NB: I never guarantee watches are waterproof!

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All Copyrights Acknowledged

© AntMat's Auto Matters & Watches 2019

ANTMAT IS AN ABBREVIATION OF ANTERIOR MATTERS (PAST TIMES)

I have been collecting watches for some 50 years, starting with Tavannes/Cymas and later Crotons. When I retired to France some 12 years ago, I started collecting French watches, LIP, Yema and various interesting Divers' watches from the Jacques Cousteau era.

My first watch was a Tavannes/Cyma issued to my mother during the London 'Blitz' in WW2. Like many of my watches, this one has an interesting history. My mother joined the ATS (The Auxiliary Territorial Service) early in 1941 and became one of a fleet of drivers who chauffeured the likes of Winston Churchill and later General Eisenhower.

One day one of her friends was a couple of minutes late picking up Mr. Churchill and was given a 'rollicking' by the great man:

“Why are you late?”, he roared. “Time is precious and we do not have enough of it. Time is running out – we must not, indeed we cannot waste it!”

In tears my mother's friend replied, “I am sorry Sir but I do not have a watch and the clock in the car must be a bit slow.”

Tearing a page off his notebook he scribbled something on it and said, “Take this to the Ministry of Supply the very minute you drop me off and demand to see the Minister personally by my order. My mother's friend gave the Minister Churchill's note who said to her, “Tell Mr. Churchill that his order will be placed immediately and you girls will all receive watches as soon as possible.”

The watches arrived two weeks later! How they came is another story!

So that was watch number one which my mother gave me when I went away to school about 13 years later. I still have it and it still keeps time.

Once I started work, I bought a watch a month for about 20 years and then on average 1.5 a month for the next 20 years. This formed the basis of my collection though I still buy the odd watch for parts or sometimes because I feel like it!

I have always cared about my watches and when I sell one it is like losing an old friend. Accordingly I try and make sure that they are in good order and/or serviced before being well packed.

Finally I strongly recommend that you read my Feedback; it tells its own story!

Well I must go - time flies when you're my age,

AntMat

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Catawiki member since March 31, 2015, received 537 reviews in total (149 in last 12 months)

Feedback score: 100% (149 reviews)
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    Very positive over the way the seller handled the sending of the watch. It was quick and very well protected. Compliments!
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    MarkCompeer October 6, 2019

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    super bien emballée et livraison rapide. je vous remercie et recommande
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    user-92ca430 September 27, 2019

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    Quick and friendly transaction, beautifully running watch.
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    rjmec September 22, 2019

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    Superbe emballage digne de Fort Knox superbe montre
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    thomasdelran September 21, 2019

    Response by seller
    Merci beaucoup pour votre commentaire très genereux!

    AntMat
  • He recibido justo el reloj que vi en la subasta y estoy contento. Si vuelvo a ver en subasta algo que me guste lo comprare. La experiencia ha sido buena.

    user-a50b08c September 17, 2019

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    My (small) Cymas collection lacked a Tavannes. No more missing. Thanks
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    nnunopam September 16, 2019

    Response by seller
    Happy that you are happy Nuno. Keep up the CYMA/Tavannes collection!

    AM
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    etom1943 September 10, 2019

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    Very good watch, It works perfect!!!!!! , I'm Happy with It!
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    badsisterwings September 9, 2019

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    veloce invio, orologio come descritto
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    alessandrovella September 6, 2019

  • Watch was professionally wrapped. The watch is in working condition. Delivery was timely.
    I would definitely purchase additional items from this seller.
    N. Stoll

    Nrstoll September 4, 2019

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    Nice product, fast delivery. Thank you
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    BMHK August 25, 2019

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    Everything was perfect: the watch,the description,the shipping.Great dealer,really professional.My best reguards
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    paolovisciani August 23, 2019

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    Watch in excellent condition as described. Perfect delivery with additional instructions for care. Superb!!!
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    lebenslust August 18, 2019

    Response by seller
    Thank you for encouraging me to continue selling on Catawiki! You have acquired a great watch!!

    AM
  • Montre en parfait état. Emballage très soigné. La montre est plus belle que sur les photos, je suis très satisfait.
    Elle fonctionne mais pour la remonter, je n'ai pas bien compris. Un renseignement ?

    user-9702e01 August 14, 2019

    Response by seller

    Je suis très heureux d'entendre que vous êtes très satisfait de la montre. Vous aurez eu un message sur le remontage de la montre.

    AM
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    Very nice watch, thank you.

    Pieter.
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    pdev August 11, 2019

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    Bravo Anthony, c'est un Bonh de commercer avec vo, merci pour la propr et à la qualit des montres, aussi aux soins porté à l'emba-lge, jusqu'aux com-taires et cons d'accom-ment, bravo la France; x R
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    user-01e3e55 August 9, 2019

    Response by seller
    Mercy bocoup pour sa!

    AntM
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    Vendeur à recom, tr Pro, tout est parfait, Montres propre, soignés, impec, embal tr soigné, comment et cons joint appréciés, vend respectueux env s client, Merci Anthony, certaine, à une proch,ne; x R
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    user-01e3e55 August 9, 2019

    Response by seller
    Xavier merci pour votre évaluation généreuse .

    Bon week-end,

    Anthony
  • I am very sorry for the delay....my feedback is absolutely positive: the watch running well,good the package and the shipping.
    Thanks.

    user-cc75972 August 9, 2019

    Response by seller
    Thank you for your Feedback - better late than never as from the majority of my buyers!

    Anthony (Matthews)
  • The watch was very well packed for transit and received in good time.
    A small problem was quickly resolved and efficiently dealt with by Anthony who is clearly very knowledgeable on the subject.

    user-f816f85 August 8, 2019

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    Very good: precise, accurate, quick to answer!
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    user-3e9d2c9 August 8, 2019

  • Bought off this seller a few times always happy with items, and seller will go that extra mile to help you with anything he possibly can. Excellent customer service. Thanx again. Timegonebuy_mcr insta

    user-1d738b6 August 7, 2019

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    Vendeur très impliqué qui fait preuve d'une excellente communication : amabilité et réactivité. Montre superbe et très bien emballée après avoir été mise en test chez le vendeur. Je le recommande !
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    ricowiki August 6, 2019

    Response by seller
    Merci beaucoup pour vos paroles généreuses qui sont très encourageantes . Comme AVIS RENT A CAR , j'essaie toujours plus fort !
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    Super vendeur.Grande qualité de l'envoi
    objet conforme à la description.
    Vendeur à recommander. Très sérieux.
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    Mabdana August 3, 2019

    Response by seller
    Merci beaucoup pour vos paroles très généreuses. Une évaluation comme la vôtre m'encourage à faire encore plus d'efforts pour offrir un meilleur service à mes acheteurs.

    AM
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    ottimo...venditore onestissimo e preciso
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    user-e114f91 July 29, 2019

    Response by seller

    Sono così felice che, date le circostanze, mi abbia lasciato una valutazione così positiva. È molto gentile da parte tua.

    Spero che apprezzerai l'orologio; è eccezionale.

    Cordiali saluti

    Anthony
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    Very god delivery😎👍🇸🇪
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    Bombi1951 July 23, 2019

    Response by seller
    I am glad you were pleased with the delivery but how did you find that fabulous and very rare watch?

    AM

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Austria $28.75
Belgium $32.07
Canada $44.23
China $48.66
Cyprus $32.07
Czech Republic $32.07
Denmark $32.07
Finland $32.07
France $23.22
Germany $32.07
Greece $32.07
Hong Kong, China $44.23
Ireland $32.07
Italy $32.07
Luxembourg $32.07
Netherlands $32.07
Norway $32.07
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Portugal $32.07
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Singapore $48.66
Spain $32.07
Sweden $32.07
Switzerland $32.07
Taiwan $48.66
United Kingdom $32.07
Rest of Europe $34.28
Anywhere else $44.23

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